CrUmp
Apr 28, 10:18 PM
Don't tell me where to put my western values. It is not government's job to uphold the corporatocracy by putting employees in jail whenever their employer doesn't like what they did. Even worse in a communist country where the "employer" and the government might be one and the same. I have every right to know how governments treat their citizens if I might be buying their products.
In general, trade secrets are a civil matter in the US, not a criminal matter - there is no arrest, there is no go to jail, it is a financial matter.
If this article is wrong and these people were not "arrested" as the article says, then the article absolutely needs to be corrected.
I would've agreed with you if everything you said are ture, however, even in the Us where the law is so perfect, theft of trade secert is still a feredal crime.
Anyways, dispite the fact they did commit the crime, you can't assume everything has everything to do with the government. Saying a Taiwanese owned company, foxconn, might be the same as Chinese government is simply false. And what make you so sure about the arrest did happened? Because you think this is how things are in china? Lol
I know what your point is, but you just like so many chinese people, blame their very own failur on the goverment. Yea those manufactur workers should have more pay, better benefits and better life, if you can tell apple and many western international corperations pay the poor chinese people more, than again, you might not afford your iphone ipad and your computers, and cars and many many other things.
I might be wrong about this, but you sure you dont have anything made in a country where worker paid 0.20 per day?
But no one in china only earn only 0.20/day, so this is also not true....I dont know how you guys came up with this.....
In general, trade secrets are a civil matter in the US, not a criminal matter - there is no arrest, there is no go to jail, it is a financial matter.
If this article is wrong and these people were not "arrested" as the article says, then the article absolutely needs to be corrected.
I would've agreed with you if everything you said are ture, however, even in the Us where the law is so perfect, theft of trade secert is still a feredal crime.
Anyways, dispite the fact they did commit the crime, you can't assume everything has everything to do with the government. Saying a Taiwanese owned company, foxconn, might be the same as Chinese government is simply false. And what make you so sure about the arrest did happened? Because you think this is how things are in china? Lol
I know what your point is, but you just like so many chinese people, blame their very own failur on the goverment. Yea those manufactur workers should have more pay, better benefits and better life, if you can tell apple and many western international corperations pay the poor chinese people more, than again, you might not afford your iphone ipad and your computers, and cars and many many other things.
I might be wrong about this, but you sure you dont have anything made in a country where worker paid 0.20 per day?
But no one in china only earn only 0.20/day, so this is also not true....I dont know how you guys came up with this.....
age234
Aug 7, 04:36 PM
Steve Jobs looks ill.. I am worried about him.
Yeah, he looks really thin.
My stream went kaputt after 22 minutes of perfection...wish I'd skipped ahead to the OS X part...
Yeah, he looks really thin.
My stream went kaputt after 22 minutes of perfection...wish I'd skipped ahead to the OS X part...
ellsworth
Apr 11, 01:15 AM
I think thats a bit dark for Apple. The only black Macs they've had are the black MacBook and the black powermac.
Maybe Apple is going towards the "DARK SIDE"
They recently changed their website menu bar to Liquid Metal Black:
http://images.apple.com/global/nav/images/globalsearch_bg.png
Maybe Apple is going towards the "DARK SIDE"
They recently changed their website menu bar to Liquid Metal Black:
http://images.apple.com/global/nav/images/globalsearch_bg.png
nagromme
Apr 4, 11:19 AM
As a developer, I don’t care if it has a cellular radio or not... so iPad and iPod need to be counted too, unless you’re studying carriers alone.
PS, I’d rather have Apple “win” by having the best product and stable profits to fuel innovation, than “win” like Google by making an OS that is “basically OK” and giving it away for free in larger numbers.
If Apple were to decide to be like Google or Microsoft, it might be catastrophic or it might be profitable, but it will NOT give us better products. And if Apple products get worse, the copycat products will be too. Everybody loses!
PS, I’d rather have Apple “win” by having the best product and stable profits to fuel innovation, than “win” like Google by making an OS that is “basically OK” and giving it away for free in larger numbers.
If Apple were to decide to be like Google or Microsoft, it might be catastrophic or it might be profitable, but it will NOT give us better products. And if Apple products get worse, the copycat products will be too. Everybody loses!
Schismz
Oct 22, 03:55 PM
You sound like you've been a lurker for some time that's just registered. GREAT post!
Hi, hey, thanks. I've had Macs for a very long time, I usually drift in here when I pick up a new one, then lose interest, <years pass>, repeat cycle. I seem to have landed back on MacRumors around the time I picked up a new dodeca-core MP.
I just replied because it's the thread that caught my eye at 2AM when clicking through stuff after having a chance to catch the Apple keynote. Which was, to me, OS/X looking more like iOS, which is fine and whatev, pretty much expected. I actually liked the Launchpad and Mission Control demos, if I'm gonna say something kind :cool:
Hi, hey, thanks. I've had Macs for a very long time, I usually drift in here when I pick up a new one, then lose interest, <years pass>, repeat cycle. I seem to have landed back on MacRumors around the time I picked up a new dodeca-core MP.
I just replied because it's the thread that caught my eye at 2AM when clicking through stuff after having a chance to catch the Apple keynote. Which was, to me, OS/X looking more like iOS, which is fine and whatev, pretty much expected. I actually liked the Launchpad and Mission Control demos, if I'm gonna say something kind :cool:
ryu3000
Mar 4, 08:05 PM
I've had this one for a couple months. :cool:
nsjoker
Aug 8, 12:10 AM
w00t, keynote is streaming beautifully now. i <3 staying up.
the vj
Apr 28, 09:27 AM
wow, insane that they were finally charged 3 months after being arrested...
I have 2 friends in Venezuela that have been arrested, one for for 8 years prior the being charged to 30 years ON TOP of the 8 years he already has, and another one for 3 years already without a trial yet. Both politically related against Hugo Chavez.
I have 2 friends in Venezuela that have been arrested, one for for 8 years prior the being charged to 30 years ON TOP of the 8 years he already has, and another one for 3 years already without a trial yet. Both politically related against Hugo Chavez.
Cygnus311
Sep 5, 04:12 PM
Obviously the phone will be only available to select providers. I don't see many people paying early termination fees to switch to whatever provider is using the Apple phone. I know I wouldn't.
bommai
Nov 9, 09:16 PM
With Vista going to computer manufacturers now, I highly doubt that it will be pushed all the way into the summer. Although it is Microsoft, and this IS Vista, but I still don't think it would happen. MS would release it anyway and a crapload of updates following if necessary.
Chundles lives in Australia (southern hemisphere). So their autumn is our spring and their summer is our winter. So, he is predicting Vista on January 30th like Microsoft's announcement. Leopard should be out by Spring time. Even if Apple hurries, I think it will be March by the time it is out.
Chundles lives in Australia (southern hemisphere). So their autumn is our spring and their summer is our winter. So, he is predicting Vista on January 30th like Microsoft's announcement. Leopard should be out by Spring time. Even if Apple hurries, I think it will be March by the time it is out.
bellman
Apr 17, 12:47 AM
OMG the telephone is white! OK, can MACrumors focus on macs now and leave iOS devices for a while??
brymaster
Apr 27, 09:22 PM
The only thing interesting in this thread is Steve Jobs' health, god bless he is in good condition, hope you get well Steve, and I hope you will feel better in the future and not have any health issues any more.
BTW, Jobs is not interested in peoples location, the media just hypes everything up and if you want absolute privacy, go live in a bunker.
Good point - privacy absolutely isn't important. But you living in London already know that, right?
****ing idiot.
BTW, Jobs is not interested in peoples location, the media just hypes everything up and if you want absolute privacy, go live in a bunker.
Good point - privacy absolutely isn't important. But you living in London already know that, right?
****ing idiot.
louis Fashion
Apr 10, 11:06 PM
Authorized equals Fair and Balanced?
shelterpaw
Aug 2, 06:30 PM
Actually, at the moment I think Apple is so focussed on the high end, and that'll always be expensive. The sweet spot is speed/cost is usually around 6 months behind the cutting edge, and it'd be great to see more Apple options in that area.
I know... iMac, Mac Mini etc can handle that reasonably well... and I do like the look of the new iMac. I'm probably just being picky.
edit: Yes, I meant desktop units, though it's probably true for laptops too?
The desktops always seem pretty plain jane to me. Usually three or four to choose from and they either are fast, faster, or super fast, but I'm not sure what you mean by bells and whistles. I guess you're saying you want a bare bones machine with a super fast processor without much else.
I know... iMac, Mac Mini etc can handle that reasonably well... and I do like the look of the new iMac. I'm probably just being picky.
edit: Yes, I meant desktop units, though it's probably true for laptops too?
The desktops always seem pretty plain jane to me. Usually three or four to choose from and they either are fast, faster, or super fast, but I'm not sure what you mean by bells and whistles. I guess you're saying you want a bare bones machine with a super fast processor without much else.
Matty-p
Apr 12, 03:02 AM
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned 3 TB drives, you can get 7200 RPM 3TB drives for $179 or 5400 RPM 3TB drives for $149 these days, why not reduce the number of bays you need by ~50%.
It doesn't sound like you need incredibly high performance given that it's for archiving video and your internet uplink is only 1.5 MB.
You didn't mention your budget, if it's on the low side, I'd go with a Linux NAS, you could build the whole thing for under $4k.
$335 20-bay SATA chassis http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219033t
$300 for 2x Intel SASUC8I 8 port SATA controllers
$80 for 4x SFF-8087 cables
$500 for a Mobo, RAM, CPU
$2100 for 14x 3TB 5400 RPM drives @ $149 each
$150 ~800watt quality power supply
$150 misc cooling fans & wiring, dvd drive
Run it RAID-6 with 2x hot spare on Linux. If afpd meets your performance expectations, you're good to go. I have a 10x 5200rpm 2TB RAID-6 linux NAS media server on a 3 or 4 year old low end athlon x2, I get 250 MBps on reads with software RAID-6. afpd is single threaded and will likely be a frustrating bottleneck for writes, it will hang during writes while it syncs to disk periodically. The above config would have no problem saturating gig ethernet during a read and come close to it during a write. Using it as a SAN via iSCSI may allow for higher performance, although you'd need to bounce incoming connections off another server.
So thats your low end, look into redundant X-Serves with DAS arrays for your high end (or EMC if you have a few hundred grand to blow).
Keep in mind RAID is not a replacement for backup, if you are not going to backup to external media at least consider a filesystem with extra space and snapshots, and maybe a second identical server you can replicate to. A higher quality chassis, redundant power supplies, hardware RAID, an X-Serve w/ DAS would be nice steps up.
Rob
Yea I was suggesting Linux or Unix for the supermicro build,
3tb are a bad idea for a pruduction environment cos there less reliable slower have far longer rebuild time for raid are more expensive the list goes on
It doesn't sound like you need incredibly high performance given that it's for archiving video and your internet uplink is only 1.5 MB.
You didn't mention your budget, if it's on the low side, I'd go with a Linux NAS, you could build the whole thing for under $4k.
$335 20-bay SATA chassis http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219033t
$300 for 2x Intel SASUC8I 8 port SATA controllers
$80 for 4x SFF-8087 cables
$500 for a Mobo, RAM, CPU
$2100 for 14x 3TB 5400 RPM drives @ $149 each
$150 ~800watt quality power supply
$150 misc cooling fans & wiring, dvd drive
Run it RAID-6 with 2x hot spare on Linux. If afpd meets your performance expectations, you're good to go. I have a 10x 5200rpm 2TB RAID-6 linux NAS media server on a 3 or 4 year old low end athlon x2, I get 250 MBps on reads with software RAID-6. afpd is single threaded and will likely be a frustrating bottleneck for writes, it will hang during writes while it syncs to disk periodically. The above config would have no problem saturating gig ethernet during a read and come close to it during a write. Using it as a SAN via iSCSI may allow for higher performance, although you'd need to bounce incoming connections off another server.
So thats your low end, look into redundant X-Serves with DAS arrays for your high end (or EMC if you have a few hundred grand to blow).
Keep in mind RAID is not a replacement for backup, if you are not going to backup to external media at least consider a filesystem with extra space and snapshots, and maybe a second identical server you can replicate to. A higher quality chassis, redundant power supplies, hardware RAID, an X-Serve w/ DAS would be nice steps up.
Rob
Yea I was suggesting Linux or Unix for the supermicro build,
3tb are a bad idea for a pruduction environment cos there less reliable slower have far longer rebuild time for raid are more expensive the list goes on
aibo82
May 4, 10:16 AM
Still impressed by what they manage to cram inside these machines...
Yeah a hybrid of laptop/pc parts in a thick LCD monitor case :p
Now if they used a high end macbook pro logicboard and 2.5 drives that slot loaded into the bottom on a removable carrage they could thin this thing down by half again!
Yeah a hybrid of laptop/pc parts in a thick LCD monitor case :p
Now if they used a high end macbook pro logicboard and 2.5 drives that slot loaded into the bottom on a removable carrage they could thin this thing down by half again!
Messy
Jan 9, 03:34 PM
Mine:
fpnc
Oct 2, 01:57 PM
So i keep getting the incompatible router message. I am currently a student on a college campus where they provide internet access. I have no idea how routers work and was just wondering if there was any shot at getting this to work. I bought it without being sure that i could use it -_-. i have snow leopard and my firewall is off. I have seen people forwarding their ports or doing something with dyndns but i have no idea what these things do or if they will even help me. can anyone help me?
Have you tried the FAQ and troubleshooting steps on Elgato's website?
Have you tried the FAQ and troubleshooting steps on Elgato's website?
emw
Sep 12, 01:37 PM
I had no idea how cricket was played until this past week while in India. It seems that cricket is quite popular there, and was one of the few sports available in English on the tele, so I watched it. After a little while I was able to figure out the basics - overs, wickets, bowlers, etc. - as wells as how the scoring works.
What I find amazing is how long the matches (tests?) last. There was a news story about a growing trend - "3 hour cricket". Sounds good to me!
Turns out a guy I work with used to play cricket (he's from Jamaica) so he was giving me some more information about the game. It's pretty cool.
What I find amazing is how long the matches (tests?) last. There was a news story about a growing trend - "3 hour cricket". Sounds good to me!
Turns out a guy I work with used to play cricket (he's from Jamaica) so he was giving me some more information about the game. It's pretty cool.
TennisandMusic
Apr 21, 03:05 PM
It will probably work the way Amazon's new service does. Only the music you purchase moving forward can be synced in the cloud.
Uhh...that is not how Amazon's service works at all. Amazon syncs your entire library. It's only that new Amazon purchases don't count towards used space. Only syncing new purchases would be worthless.
Uhh...that is not how Amazon's service works at all. Amazon syncs your entire library. It's only that new Amazon purchases don't count towards used space. Only syncing new purchases would be worthless.
roocka
Apr 11, 08:43 AM
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This one is for the materials science geeks on this forum. I had a look back to this patent where Apple was researching Carbon fibre shells:
http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/30/apple-researching-carbon-fiber-composite-materials-for-exterior-shells/
I was also looking at how long they've been working with Liquid metal:
http://m.gizmodo.com/5608322/is-apple-working-on-liquid-metal-terminators-or-what
And it seems to me that they are pursuing BOTH technologies with equal effort. It seemed strange to me that they would put so much effort into to two technologies when they would likely only use one for cases/structural requirements.
And thenI found this excerpt from a book which describes how to fuse carbon fibre with metal alloys to create a sandwich which is similar to the first patent l linked to above.:
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=aCm9yvodiJcC&pg=PA192&lpg=PA192&dq=liquid+metal+carbon+fibre+sandwich&source=bl&ots=qo5jE32X5e&sig=DFK_MIvPzfsvjjgl445HD_urpHU&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
The (carbon) fiber layer is laid down carefully in the proper orientation on top of a metal foil and then covered with another metal foil. The metal-fiber sandwich is then compressed (the foils help retain the fibers in place) and heated to above the melting point of the metal. This heating with compression causes the metal foils to melt and infuse with the fibers, thus wetting the fibers and distributing the metal throughout the structure.
Based on all this, my guess is that apple is making some kind of fusion casing material that will be mouldable like liquid metal, have the extra strength of carbon fibre, and have the strength/weight properties of both. That would also explain some of the "darker" metal/liquid metal pics that have been floating around.
What do you think?
I agree with this poster. If Apple can make the composite of carbonfiber and Liquidmetal, it will be much stronger and probably much less expensive to produce.
Look at the Omega Liquidmetal video on YouTube if you're curious how this works.
This one is for the materials science geeks on this forum. I had a look back to this patent where Apple was researching Carbon fibre shells:
http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/30/apple-researching-carbon-fiber-composite-materials-for-exterior-shells/
I was also looking at how long they've been working with Liquid metal:
http://m.gizmodo.com/5608322/is-apple-working-on-liquid-metal-terminators-or-what
And it seems to me that they are pursuing BOTH technologies with equal effort. It seemed strange to me that they would put so much effort into to two technologies when they would likely only use one for cases/structural requirements.
And thenI found this excerpt from a book which describes how to fuse carbon fibre with metal alloys to create a sandwich which is similar to the first patent l linked to above.:
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=aCm9yvodiJcC&pg=PA192&lpg=PA192&dq=liquid+metal+carbon+fibre+sandwich&source=bl&ots=qo5jE32X5e&sig=DFK_MIvPzfsvjjgl445HD_urpHU&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
The (carbon) fiber layer is laid down carefully in the proper orientation on top of a metal foil and then covered with another metal foil. The metal-fiber sandwich is then compressed (the foils help retain the fibers in place) and heated to above the melting point of the metal. This heating with compression causes the metal foils to melt and infuse with the fibers, thus wetting the fibers and distributing the metal throughout the structure.
Based on all this, my guess is that apple is making some kind of fusion casing material that will be mouldable like liquid metal, have the extra strength of carbon fibre, and have the strength/weight properties of both. That would also explain some of the "darker" metal/liquid metal pics that have been floating around.
What do you think?
I agree with this poster. If Apple can make the composite of carbonfiber and Liquidmetal, it will be much stronger and probably much less expensive to produce.
Look at the Omega Liquidmetal video on YouTube if you're curious how this works.
xUKHCx
Nov 9, 07:42 PM
good on Apple for improving the speed of Rosetta, but it would be so much easier is M$ made Office a UB...
i and being to use neooffice for quick viewing of files but when it comes to writing my own documents i do have to fire up the old excel and word. Which is still a pain even with 2gb of ram and a core 2 duo.
i and being to use neooffice for quick viewing of files but when it comes to writing my own documents i do have to fire up the old excel and word. Which is still a pain even with 2gb of ram and a core 2 duo.
Some_Big_Spoon
Oct 12, 11:35 PM
Not much to report here. Other than a few cosmetic tweaks, it's the same as Tiger for me.
Hope it gets better than this on release.
Hope it gets better than this on release.
robbieduncan
Sep 9, 04:52 AM
No rain today I think - we will have to play our sox off. Here we go....!
And Jones is out already! 350 is looking more and more like a target to aim for. As for the food/drinks I think that they still get stuck into whatever they want. I seem to remember Flintoff saying he was eating loads of crisps to calm his nerves at the end of one of the tests!
Edit to add: also Warne said this (I'm sure with some sarcasm) about his performance yesterday "It shows what a fit athlete can do". I'm sure some of you remember him storming out of a press conference when he was called fat :D
And Jones is out already! 350 is looking more and more like a target to aim for. As for the food/drinks I think that they still get stuck into whatever they want. I seem to remember Flintoff saying he was eating loads of crisps to calm his nerves at the end of one of the tests!
Edit to add: also Warne said this (I'm sure with some sarcasm) about his performance yesterday "It shows what a fit athlete can do". I'm sure some of you remember him storming out of a press conference when he was called fat :D
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